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Broken Cake Stands, UPS, Unreasonable Buyers, and eBay

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Around two weeks ago I sold a cake plate.  You know the kind metal filigree stand with glass dome?  As we I’ve always done, we double box the item and send it off UPS.

The buyer even requested I ship it UPS.

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Except I think she wanted the UPS store to ship the item.  (You’ll see this in later messages)

I messaged her and said it would be shipped via UPS.  We sent out the item, double boxed, and received a messaged stating that the scroll filigree work on the metal base broke.

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If you’ve never submitted a claim with UPS, they require the buyers phone number.  They will call the buyer and schedule a pick up with them.

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Uh.. that’s not what I asked you to do.

I message the buyer again and ask them to please give me their phone number and allow me to have UPS pick it up.  Once they pick it up I can refund her money.

The buyer then opens a return request.

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Did you see ‘UPS did not package this purchase’? Her address is a UPS store.  I wonder if the UPS store had a role in this debacle?

You see how she is stating she will not “request a return from UPS”?  AND in all of our messages she adds a note for eBay.

I call eBay where the representative volunteers to message the buyer and urge her to work with me.  The message from the eBay rep even states that “if you return the item to the seller, the insurance will be void” and we need to have the carrier pick up the item per their policy.

I respond to her in the return request:

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“We” packed the item.  It was double boxed and UPS picked it up from our business and shipped it to your home.  When UPS has a breakage there are rules that are put on me the shipper to follow.  I’ve sent you the instructions on how to get the fast refund possible and you’ve refused. Perhaps I did not explain well enough in previous emails.  When there is a breakage UPS will pick up the broken item and the packaging from your house.  They will start the refund process since there was insurance place on the package.  In order to start his process i need your phone number.  UPS will call you and set u a time to pick it up.  They will pick up the item and issue a refund.  It takes bout a week or two for this to happen and there is very little effort you will need to do besides answering the phone and scheduling a pick up.  This is what is required for a return.  Please send me the best phone number for UPS t get a hold of you and we can get the process started.

She responds:

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Once again. We are Not going to allow UPS to be responsible for an item that was shipped damaged.  Maybe we were not clear.  We are Not going to hold UPS responsible for this item you sent so “carefully packaged”.  Once questions… Since you packaged the item so carefully and double boxed package.  Why did this item arrive broken?  Well the box was not damaged at all and the contents wee still in place.  Seems like you are holding UPS responsible for something that they are not responsible for  We will surely explain this to UPS.  Once again we are not going to accept a claim from UPS.  THIS HAS NOT BEEN A VERY PLEASANT EXPERIENCE. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THIS A SPECIAL SITUATION. Thank you.

I called eBay.  Where the representative told me that I did not make myself clear in the messages that she was going to receive a refund.  SOOOOO  I message the buyer again.

It does not matter how well you package an item sometimes it breaks. The glass usually breaks and on this item it did not. It was the metal. It was not intentional. WHY would a seller of 19 years want a customer to receive a broken item? I packaged the item sent it to you with insurance.  I purchased insurance on this item for a situation like this.  If I had not purchased insurance I would be responsible. I spoke to an eBay representative and they thought I was not clear that this is UPS’ policy and that I am following their rules.  Once again here are the steps to getting this claim done as quickly as possible.

The way this is being handle is how UPS handles breakages.

#1 I submit the claim with your number

#2 They call you

#3 You package the item in the original packaging and leave it for them to pick up.

#4 They pick it up inspect it

#5 They call me to ask what was in there.

#6 a refund is issued.

Please message me your phone number as soon as possible so that I can get this process started.

She responds:

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You are not understanding that we are not going to be part of a claim blaming or holding UPS responsible for the damage done to our item.  That’s it EBAY will definitely have to step in.  even if you do submit a claim, once UPS contacts us we are going to explain what took place.  That’s it… We wish that we never came in touch with you and your item.  We are not going to hold UPS responsible.  you don’t have to explain any more. We will get EBAY involved.

I contacted eBay again.  The person I spoke to volunteered to call the customer and explain that this was what they were supposed to do.  If they sent it back to me the insurance I put on the package would be void.  I guess the buyer was rude and belligerent with the eBay rep.  I received a call back from the eBay rep and she explained the only choice she thought I had was to escalate the claim and have it closed against me THEN appeal the claim and  everything would be rainbows.

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All is well that ends well?

That Time We Rescued a Cow

I was almost home.. driving down my my dusty gravel road and I saw a cow.  I kind of like these cows.  They are not mine, but I see them almost everyday when I leave our house.  On this night I thought it was weird that there were only 2 cows in the field… and one seemed to be staring at the tree.

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I slowed down to check out what was going on and realized that the baby cow was stuck.  We could not get a hold of the cow’s owners.  I thought I would walk out into the field and help the cow get out, but The Man said “you don’t have on the right shoes.”  That’s crazy talk.. because if you know me.. you know I always have on the “right shoes”.

20160829_193717.jpgYou can’t see The Man he’s behind the tree.  That’s #3 she apparently has “the right shoes” and went out to help.

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Here’s Elvis.  He came down to see if we needed help.

20160829_194035.jpg#3 needed a Fatherly escort back to the fence, while Elvis keeps a watchful eye on Mamma Cow.

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#2 brought tools just in case we needed to cut the tree.

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Our neighbor Josh stopped by and he tickled the cow’s chin and he lifted it up enough and was freed.

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See you later cow #236

Dear eBay Queen: I’ve Got a Buyer Making Crazy Demands and Feedback Extortion. What Do I Do?

Dear eBay Queen:

I sell Fat Heads and Foam Heads on eBay and my web store.  I rarely have any issues.  I received a message from the buyer saying at about 1:00 AM on Sunday morning saying this isn’t what his son wanted – can I cancel?

Around 3:30AM on Sunday morning I receive a second message that says:  “Don’t worry about cancelling.  My son has decided that HE IS going to University of Florida and he does need not only one, but two foam heads.

I packed the items up to ship on Tuesday July 5th, and I receive a third message this morning saying that this was supposed to be shipped yesterday! (The day he told me to cancel.)

I sent a message to the buyer and told him it is Sunday evening and tomorrow is the 4th. I also let him know I sent him an additional invoice, (which he has not paid) and packed the one foam head he did pay for to ship out.

I then receive his 4th message: “What are you talking about lady?  It’s buy one get one on the gator heads!  Why should I have to pay for a second one?”

5th message “Ok so I’ve thought about this. I won’t adding to you feedback percentage.  I will be taking away from it. This is quite possibly the worst transaction I’ve ever had on eBay!  Go ahead and send out the *1* gator head.  I will be returning it as soon as it arrives.  I will also be tearing it up. It will be unrecognizable when you get it back. I can’t stand idiot sellers like yourself you think you can take advantage of people like me.  You won’t even live up to the standards that are in your own listings. I will be returning your product and I will never do business with you again. You give me no other option but to return the item and give you very bad feedback thanks for wasting my time.”

I know I shouldn’t have done it, but I responded.  I tried to be nice.

I am sorry there must be some kind of misunderstanding; I have reviewed my listing, and nowhere does it say buy one get one free.  I will refund your money immediately. I am very sorry for the confusion.”

He responds.   “Please send it to me anyway.  I must have confused you with another seller.”

What should I do?  He’s threatened to give me negative feedback AND tear up my product.

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Dear CLA:

WHOA! Talk about someone that can’t make up their mind!  Here is how I look at it.

If you send it to him:

  • He could be happy with it and leave you positive feedback.  He may have confused your item with another seller.
  • He could be unhappy with the product, and do exactly what he said.  Tear it up and send it back, and don’t forget the negative feedback.

You could refund his money:

  • He might leave negative feedback
  • Turn you in as a non-selling seller

I am pretty sure no matter what happens, the negative feedback will be removed, because he did clearly use feedback extortion.  Normally I would say to call in and report this to eBay, which wouldn’t hurt, but I don’t think they will be able to do anything until your buyer does something. I think I would probably send the buyer’s item out and wait to see what happens.  You have enough crazy emails from this guy to show you did nothing wrong.  If the worst happens, and he tears the foam head up and returns it, you have proof in his messages he said he would do this

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Strange eBay Item of the Week: Item #252402698841. It is hot outside! Old advertising thermometers are highly collectible. Ace High Gasoline Wil Flo Motor Oil Thermometer Porcelain Very Rare Advertising SOLD: $2716.00.

eBay Buyer Insanity or Wishful Thinking?

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I was contacted Saturday (April 16th) by a buyer who purchased a bra from me on March 7th.  Here’s her message:

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“I haven’t left feedback yet on the 75338 bra because I have worn it one time and to me it is doing the same thing that my old bras do.  I have probably about 10 of these bras, in different colors but all same style.  After I wear them a couple of months they tend to crease in the padding. That is what this one is doing.  I didn’t want to leave negative feedback and I just wanted to let you know.”

Why would someone continue to purchase an item that does not perform they want it too?  Then blame the seller?

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